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The Jerusalem Talmud

Jerusalem Talmud Sheviit 2.5

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

MISHNAH: Rice, millet, poppies, and sesame that took root before the New Year are tithed for the past year and are permitted in the Sabbatical year. Otherwise they are forbidden in the Sabbatical and tithed for the coming year. Rebbi Simeon from Shezur says, Egyptian bean which one sowed originally for its beans has the same rules. Rebbi Simeon says, large peas have the same rules. Rebbi Eleazar says, [only] large peas when they formed pods before the New Year.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

HALAKHAH: “Rice, millet,” etc. For produce they went after its being a third [ripe], for rice after roots taking hold, and for vegetables the collection is the time of its tithing. From where that they could go after its being a third [ripe] for produce? (Deut. 16:16) “From your threshing-floor and from your wine-press.” “From your threshing-floor”, not all your threshing-floor, “from your wine-press”, not all your wine-press. Then also if it is less than a third [ripe]? Rebbi Zeïra said, it is written (Deut. 14:22): “Tithe! You should tithe all produce of your seed,” something which may be sown and will sprout; this excludes produce less than a third [ripe] which when sown will not sprout. Then one should tithe the first third for the past and the other two thirds for the future! Rebbi Joḥanan said, from the holiday of Tabernacles. Just as Tabernacles belongs to the next year but you celebrate it for the past, so this one is for the future and you celebrate it for the past.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

One might say, this similarly applies to rice, millet, poppy seeds, and sesame! Rebbi Ḥuna bar Ḥiyya said, there it is impossible to recognize. They objected to Ḥuna bar Ḥiyya, was it not stated: He collects it together with his threshing, it turns out that he tithes from his seeds for his vegetable and from his vegetable for his fruits? Rebbi Yose said, Ḥuna bar Ḥiyya confirmed it; Rebbi Jonah, Ḥuna bar Ḥiyya in the name of Samuel: It is written (Deut. 14:22): “Tithe! You should tithe all produce of your seed,” you give one tithe in one year but not two tithes in one year. They objected, does not Egyptian bean require two tithes in one year? Was it not stated: He collects it together with his threshing, it turns out that he tithes from his seeds for his vegetable and from his vegetable for his fruits? Rebbi Zeïra said, it is written (Lev. 25:3): “Six years you shall sow your field and harvest.” Six sowings and six harvests, not six sowings and seven harvests. Rebbi Jonah said, we cannot hold with six but instead hold with seven; so it is: Six sowings and seven harvests, not six sowings and five harvests. They objected, does not Egyptian bean have six sowings and five harvests? As it was stated: He collects it together with his threshing, it turns out that he tithes from his seeds for his vegetable and from his vegetable for his fruits.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

On which basis did they rule that for vegetables their collection is the time of tithing? (Deut. 16:16) “From your threshing-floor and from your wine-press.” Threshing-floor and wine-press are sustained by the waters of the preceding year, you go for them after the past. These live from the waters of the coming year, you go for them to the future. They objected, but Egyptian beans, if one sowed them for the beans, are tithed for the past, but if he sowed for vegetable, they are tithed for the future. Does it hold a charm [to know that] if one sowed them for the beans, they drink from the past year, but if he sowed them as vegetable, they drink from the future year?

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

What means תרמילו? They produced pockets.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Rebbi Abba bar Zavda in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: Practice follows Rebbi Simeon from Shezur. Rebbi Yosa said, Rebbi Eleazar instructed Rebbi Sabbatai Zadoq’s, following Rebbi Simeon from Shezur.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

It was stated: The Sages enumerated six cases for Egyptian bean. If one sowed it for seeds it is tithed for the past; if he sowed it as vegetable it is tithed for the future. If he sowed it for both seeds and vegetable, or if he sowed for seeds and then wanted it as vegetable, one may tithe from its seed on vegetable and from vegetable on seeds, on condition that it was one-third ripe before the New Year. But if it was only ripe one-third after the New Year, its seed is tithed for the past and its vegetable is tithed at the moment of its being plucked if it was collected before the New Year. But if some of it was collected after the New Year, both seed and vegetable are tithed for the future.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

If he sowed it for seeds and then thought about it for vegetable, it follows his thought. If he sowed it as vegetable, the thought of seeds cannot take hold on it unless he withheld three morbiot. That is, if it was one-third ripe before the New Year, but if it was not one-third ripe before the New Year, even if he did not withhold three morbiot. If he sowed for seeds and all [plants] formed complete pods before the New Year, its seeds are tithed for the past year, its greens are tithed at the time of their harvest. If some [plants] had formed complete pods but some did not, that is the case of: “He collects it together with his threshing, it turns out that he tithes from his seeds for his vegetable and from his vegetable for his fruits”. Rebbi Eudaimon from Haifa stated: Even if not all [plants] formed complete pods before the New Year, its seeds are tithed for the past year, its greens are tithed at the time of their harvest. Rebbi Yose said, that is if it was one-third ripe for the intention of seeds. But if it was one-third ripe for the intention of vegetables, it is impossible to say that its seeds are tithed for the past year and its greens are tithed at the time of their harvest, since you say that “he collects it together with his threshing; it turns out that he tithes from his seeds for his vegetable and from his vegetable for his seeds”.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

If one sowed it for seeds before the Sabbatical New Year, then in the Sabbatical year both seeds and vegetables are permitted. If one sowed it as vegetable before the Sabbatical New Year, then in the Sabbatical year both seeds and vegetables are forbidden. If one sowed it both for seeds and vegetable before the Sabbatical New Year, then in the Sabbatical year clearly seeds are permitted. What is the status of vegetables? Rebbi Ḥiyya stated “forbidden”, Rebbi Ḥalaphta ben Shaul stated “permitted”. He who says “permitted” follows the word of the orah. He who says “forbidden”, because of the bad impression. Rebbi Simeon bar Zevida asked before Rebbi Yose: Then it should be forbidden even to use it to feed one’s animals, because of the bad impression. He said to him, one should not give to his son or to his agent, nor should he harvest in a row. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, if a hole was torn out it is permitted. Even according to him who says it is forbidden, if he harvested and found vegetable in it, it is permitted. Similarly, when a man came carrying ten bundles of Lybian [beans] as tithe to Rebbi Jeremiah, he said that this should not be done; do not harvest more than what is needed for the pan.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

If one sowed it [for seeds] before the New Year of the eighth year, then in the eighth year both seeds and vegetables are forbidden. If one sowed it as vegetable before the New Year of the eighth year, then in the eighth year both seeds and vegetables are permitted. If one sowed it both for seeds and vegetable before the New Year of the eighth year, then in the eighth year seeds are forbidden and the vegetable is permitted.

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The Jerusalem Talmud, edition, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer (Berlin: De Gruyter, 1999–2015). CC BY. Text from Sefaria (sefaria.org); commentary notes omitted. · Source ↗

Hebrew/Aramaic text: The Jerusalem Talmud, edition by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer (Berlin: De Gruyter, 1999–2015), via Sefaria (sefaria.org). Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/). Changes: footnotes and HTML formatting removed.

The Jerusalem Talmud, edition, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer (Berlin: De Gruyter, 1999–2015). CC BY. Text from Sefaria (sefaria.org); commentary notes omitted. · Source ↗

English translation: The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer (Berlin: De Gruyter, 1999–2015); commentary notes omitted, via Sefaria (sefaria.org). Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/). Changes: footnotes and HTML formatting removed.

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