The Jerusalem Talmud Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat 4.1

English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

MISHNAH: In what does one store away and in what may one not store away? One does not store away in olive cake, nor in manure, nor in salt, nor in lime, nor in sand, whether moist or dry. Not in straw, nor in fibers, nor in grape pits, nor in grasses when they are moist but one may store away in them when dry. One may store away in garments, and produce, and pigeon wings, and flax residue, and in fine sawdust. Rebbi Jehudah forbids if it is fine and permits coarse.

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Hebrew · Jerusalem Talmud, ed. Guggenheimer (Hebrew/Aramaic)

הלכה: בַּמֶּה טוֹמְנִין וּבַמָּה אֵין טוֹמְנִין כול׳. לְפִי שֶׁהַדְּבָרִים הַלָּלוּ רוֹתְחִין וּמַרְתִּיחִין וְהוּא נוֹטְלָן וְהֵן תַּשִּׁים לְתוֹךְ יָדוֹ וּמַחֲזִירָן וְהֵן מוֹסִיפִין רְתִיחָה. לְפִיכָךְ אָסְרוּ לִטְמוֹן בָּהֶן. וּכְרִבִּי לָעְזָר בֶּן עֲזַרְיָה. דְּרִבִּי לָעְזָר בֶּן עֲזַרְיָה אָמַר. קוּפָּה מַטָּהּ עַל צִידָּהּ וְנוֹטֵל. וּכְרַבָּנִן דְּתַמָּן. דִּינּוּן אָמְרִין. אִם הָיְתָה יוֹרֶה מוּתָּר. וְתַמָּן תַּנִּינָן. סָפֵק חֲשֵׁיכָה סָפֵק לֹא חֲשֵׁיכָה. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁלֹּא חֲשֵׁיכָה. הָא אִם חֲשֵׁיכָה אָסוּר לִטְמוֹן בָּהֶן. תַּמָּן אָמְרִין. מִפְּנֵי בִיטּוּל בֵּית הַמִּדְרַשׁ. אָמַר רִבִּי בָּא. מִפְּנֵי הַחַשָּׁד. שֶׁאִם אוֹמֵר אַתְּ לוֹ שֶׁהוּא מוּתָּר אַף הוּא אֵינוֹ עוֹשֶׂה אוֹתָן כָּל צוֹרְכוֹ מִבְּעוֹד יוֹם. מִתּוֹךְ שֶׁאַתְּ אוֹמֵר לוֹ שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר אַף הוּא עוֹשֶׂה אוֹתוֹ כָּל צוֹרְכוֹ מִבְּעוֹד יוֹם. מַה נְפַק מִן בֵּינֵיהוֹן. לִטְמוֹן שֶׁלֶג וְצוֹנִין. עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי בָּא מוּתָּר. וְעַל דַּעְתּוֹן דְּרַבָּנִן דְּתַמָּן אָסוּר. אָסְרוּ טְמִינָה מִפְּנֵי כִירָה. אָסְרוּ כִירָה מִפְּנֵי טְמִינָה. אָסְרוּ כִירָה שֶׁהֲבָלָהּ מְמוּעָט מִפְּנֵי כִירָה שֶׁהֲבָלָהּ מְרוּבֶּה. אָסְרוּ תַבְשִׁיל שֶׁנִּתְבַּשֵּׁל כָּל צוֹרְכוֹ מִפְּנֵי תַבְשִׁיל שֶׁלֹּא נִתְבַּשֵּׁל כָּל צוֹרְכוֹ. אָסְרוּ חַמִּין מִפְּנֵי תַבְשִׁיל שֶׁנִּתְבַּשֵּׁל כָּל צוֹרְכוֹ. חָזְרוּ וְהִתִּירוּ חַמִּין.

English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

HALAKHAH: “In what does one store away and in what may one not store away,” etc. Because these things are hot and produce heat; if he takes away and they cool in his hand he returns them and they add heat; therefore they forbade to store away in them following Rebbi Eleazar ben Azariah, for Rebbi Eleazar ben Azariah said, “a box he tilts on its side and takes out.” But according to the rabbis there? For they say, if it was a vat it is permitted. And there we have stated “if there be doubt whether it is dark or not dark.” Because it was not dark; therefore if it is dark it is forbidden to store away in them. There, they are saying, because of the neglect of the house of study; Rebbi Abba said, because of the suspicion. For if you tell him that he is permitted he will not finish it completely when it still is daylight. Because you tell him that he is forbidden he will finish it completely when it still is daylight. What is the difference between them? To hide away snow and cold water. In Rabbi Abba’s opinion it is permitted, in the opinion of the rabbis there it is prohibited. They forbade hiding away because of the cooking stove; they forbade the cooking stove because of hiding away. They forbade a cooking stove which creates little heat because of a cooking stove which creates much heat. They forbade a completely cooked dish because of an incompletely cooked dish. They forbade hot water because of a completely cooked dish. They turned around and permitted hot water.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

It was stated: One does not store away in hot ashes. Rebbi Zeˋira said, this implies that it is permitted to store away in cold ashes. As the following: Rebbi Yannai’s daughter was serving her father and brought him hot dishes. He asked her, how was this made? She told him, (with a spade and) [it was hidden in] olive cake. He said to her, you should not do this, but (with a spade) [hide it] in a box and put the box on the olive cake. Rebbi Zeˋira said, Rebbi Ḥanina disagrees with this. Rebbi Aḥa preached in the name of Rebbi Ḥanina: Olive cake at the bottom and straw on both sides is forbidden, and Rebbi Yannai agrees.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Abbin asked: It he mixed them, what? Let us hear from the following: “One may store away in garments, and produce, and pigeon wings.” Rebbi Yose ben Pazi in the name of Rebbi Yose bar Ḥanina: This means, if they are not much rotten. But if they are much rotten it is forbidden to store away in them.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

“Not in sand.” There, we have stated: “One puts it on sand in order to wait.” This sand heats the hot and cools the cold. Straw is like the holder of a deposit; what you give it it gives to you.

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Hebrew · Jerusalem Talmud, ed. Guggenheimer (Hebrew/Aramaic)

כָּל דָּבָר שֶׁמַּרְחִיקִין אוֹתוֹ מִן הַכּוֹתֶל אָסוּר לִטָמוֹן בּוֹ. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. מִן מַה דְתַנִּינָן. תֶּבֶן טוֹמְנִין בּוֹ. הָדָא אָמְרָה. אֵין מַרְחִיקִין אוֹתוֹ מִן הַכּוֹתֶל. הָתִיב רִבִּי חַגַּיי. וְהָתַנֵּי. וְהַמַּשְׂכִּיר בַּיִת לַחֲבֵירוֹ לֹא יַעֲשֶׂנּוּ אוֹצַר שֶׁל תְּבוּאָה. לֵיידָא מִילָּה. לֹא מִפְּנֵי הַמּוֹץ. אָמַר רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה. מִפְּנֵי הָעַכְבָּרִים. אָמַר רִבִּי פִינְחָס בֵּירִבִּי חֲנִינָה. אִם מִפְּנֵי הָעַכְבָּרִים נִיתְנֵי אֲפִילוּ אוֹצַר שֶׁלְּכָל דָּבָר. הֲוֵי יְאוּת קַשִּׁי רִבִּי חַגַּיי. אֹתִיב רִבִּי שַׁמַּי. הֲרֵי סְלָעִים מַרְחִיק אוֹתָן מִן הַכּוֹתֶל. מֵעַתָּה אָסוּר לִטְמוֹן בָּהֶן. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. לֹא שֶׁהַסְּלָעִים מַרְתִּיחִין אֶלָא שֶׁהֵן עוֹשִׂין חֲלוּדָה וְהֵן מַלְקִין אַרְעִיתוֹ שֶׁלְּכוֹתֶל. וְהָא תַנֵּי. אֵין טוֹמְנִין בִּסְלָעִים. תִּיפְתָּר בִּסְלָעִים שֶׁלְּכֶסֶף. אִית תַּנָּיֵי תַנֵּי. טוֹמְנִין בִּסְלָעִים. וְאִית תַּנָּיֵי תַנֵּי. אֵין טוֹמְנִין. אַמַר רַב חִסְדָּא. מָאן דָּמַר. טוֹמְנִין. בְּשֶׁלְּזָהָב שֶׁלְנְחוֹשֵׁת. וּמָאן דָּמַר. אֵין טוֹמְנִין. בִּסְלָעִים שֶׁלְּכֶסֶף.

English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

It is forbidden to store away in anything which one has to distance from a wall. Rebbi Yose said, since we have stated that one may store away in straw, it follows that one need not distance it from a wall. Rebbi Ḥaggai objected: Was it not stated, one who rents o house from his neighbor may not use it as storage for produce? Why? Not because of the chaff? Rebbi Ḥanania said, because of the rats. Rebbi Phineas ben Rebbi Ḥanina said, if it were because of the rats then even a storage for anything. Rebbi Shammai objected, does one not distance rocks from the wall? Then rocks are forbidden to hide away in. Rebbi Yose said, it is not that rocks produce heat but they become rusty and destroy the bottom of the wall. But was it not stated: One does not store away in stones. Explain it for silver ore. There are Tannaim who state, one does store in rocks, and there are Tannaim who state, one does not store. Rav Ḥisda said, he who says “one stores”, with gold or brass ore; he who says “one does not store”, with silver ore.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Not only if they are wet but even if they were dry and became wet, as these fibers; are these not like dry which became wet? Rebbi Joḥanan bar Shila: This implies that one who hides a cauldron must let it be missing a little lest he take it up and it spills and heats. There, we stated: “The same holds for new olive cake but old one is pure.” What is new and what is old? Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: New within 12 months, old after 12 months.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

“One may store away in garments, and produce, and pigeon wings.” Rebbi Jehudah ben Pazi in the name of Rebbi Jeremiah bar Ḥanina: This means, if they are not much rotten. But if they are much rotten it is forbidden to store away in them.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

“And in flax residue, and in sawdust.” We have stated נְסוּרֶת. In the House of Rebbi they stated נְעוֹרֶת. This implies that both are the same.

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