The Jerusalem Talmud Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim 3.3

English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

MISHNAH: How does one separate ḥallah in impurity on the holiday? Rebbi Eliezer says, it should not be given a name until after it is baked. Ben Bathyra says, one should keep it in cold water. Rebbi Joshua said, this is not leavening where one is warned that it should not be seen nor found, but one separates it and leaves it until the evening, and if it fermented, it fermented.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

HALAKHAH: The Mishnah if it became impure after rolling. But if it became impure before rolling, he should make them into pieces of single qab. If it was kneaded on the holiday. But if it was kneaded before the holiday, it is as it was stated: “if one kneads dough on a holiday, he separates its ḥallah on the holiday. If he kneaded it before the holiday but forgot to take its ḥallah, it is forbidden to move it; it is unnecessary to say, to take ḥallah from it.” If he mixed water and flour? He only mentioned “kneaded”, so not when he mixed? Rebbi Samuel, brother of Rebbi Berekhiah, said: explain it if the dough was impure where he takes ḥallah only at the end. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, it should have been the rule that for pure dough one should take ḥallah only at the end. They instituted that one should take it at the start, lest the dough become impure. The Mishnah is about the holiday of Passover; therefore on Pentecost and Tabernacles it is permitted. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun, Rebbi Ḥuna in the name of Rebbi Aḥa, even on Pentecost and Tabernacles it is prohibited, because of no work shall be done on them.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

What is the difference between this and cleansing heave vegetables? The latter is possible food, the former is not possible food. The rabbis of Caesarea asked, what is the difference between this and picking out legumes on a holiday?

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

What should he do in Rebbi Eliezer’s opinion? He is cunning and says, this I want to eat[ and this I want to eat], and bakes all of them. When he removes the loaves, he is cunning and says, this I want to leave for later, and this I want to leave for later, and leaves one as remainder.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Rebbi Joshua said to him, are you not like one who burns sancta on a holiday? Rebbi Eliezer told him, it is burned automatically. Rebbi Joshua said to him, are you not transgressing it should not be seen, and it should notbe found? He told him, it is better to violate a prohibition that was not caused by you than a prohibition which will come before you.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

[Rebbi Phineas said, this disagreement is parallel to other disagreements.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

As we have stated there: “[Blood] to be given in one batch etc. Rebbi Eliezer said to him, would you not transgress do not diminish? Rebbi Joshua answered him, would you not transgress do not add?” He said to him, it is better to violate a prohibition that was not caused by me than a prohibition which will come before me.]

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

In Rebbi Eliezer’s opinion, should he not give it its name and then take it down? It will be forbidden to move it. Then should he not take it down and then give it its name? Maybe he would forget and eat it. Should he not take it down, then give it its name, and with another piece put it in an isolated corner, following what we did state there, “one may move impure heave together with pure one or with profane food”? It cannot be compared; there impure for the needs of pure, but here profane for the needs of impure. The colleagues asked, could he not throw it onto the garbage heap and then dedicate it? May a person dedicate what is not his? Then could he not dedicate it and throw it on the garbage heap? Can a person declare ownerless something that is not his?

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Rebbi Jeremiah asked: Could he not separate it, throw it in the air in the house and then give it its name? There, Rebbi Jeremiah said in the name of Rebbi Zeˋira: Two volumes of half an olive in one house, the house does not combine them; in one vessel, the vessel does combine them; and here he says so? Rebbi Yose said, when it still is in the air of the house he gives it its name. Does the air of the house combine for ḥallah but the ground of the house does not combine for leavening?

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

It and its young fell into a cistern. Rebbi Eliezer said, he should lift the first one for the purpose of slaughtering it and slaughter it. The second one has to be provided for so it should not die. Rebbi Joshua says, he should lift the first one for the purpose of slaughtering it and not slaughter it, and be cunning and lift the second one. Even though he had no intention of slaughtering either of them, he is permitted. Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya asked: Is the argument of Rebbi Eliezer not inverted? There he says, one is prohibited from cunning but here he says, one is permitted to be cunning. Here it is because “not to be seen nor found”; there, what do you have? Is the argument of Rebbi Joshua not inverted? There he says, one is permitted to be cunning, but here, he says, one is prohibited from cunning. Rebbi Idi said, there it is a rabbinic Sabbath prohibition, but here liability for a purification offering. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Bun said, there it is to protect Jews’ money; here what do you have?

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Rebbi Isaac and Rebbi Joshia, one like one of them, the other like the other. Rebbi Berekhiah preached following Ben Bathyra, the Mishnah says so: “she shall beat it and wet it with cold water.” The words of the rabbis disagree, but Rebbi Ḥizqiah, Rebbi Abbahu said in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: In every instance where Rebbi formulated a disagreement and later formulated it anonymously, practice follows the anonymous statement.

Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim 3.3

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