The Jerusalem Talmud Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat 17.1

English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

MISHNAH: All implements may be taken on the Sabbath and their doors with them, even if they were disassembled on the Sabbath; they are not similar to doors of a house because the latter are not prepared.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

HALAKHAH: “All implements may be taken on the Sabbath,” etc. There is spelled out more for doors of a house and there is spelled out more for doors of implements. There is spelled out more for doors of a house, for even if they were unhinged on Friday they may not be moved on the Sabbath. There is spelled out more for doors of implements, for even if they were unhinged on the Sabbath they may be used on the Sabbath.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

“Because the latter are not prepared,” and they are used only connected to the ground. Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: “Originally all implements could be taken on the Sabbath. Because they were suspected of desecrating holidays and Sabbaths as it is written, at that time I saw in Jehudah that they were working wine presses on the Sabbath … and loading on donkeys, etc., they forbade them everything. After they were fenced in they continued to permit to them until they permitted them everything except the big saw and the blade of the plough. Rebbi Yose said, also the engraver’s stylo. Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel says, also the anchor.” “A mortar, if there is garlic in it one may take it, otherwise one may not take it; Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel says, if it is a small mortar used at table then it is like a bowl and one moves it on the Sabbath.” Rebbi Yose, Rebbi Ila in the name of Rebbi Eleazar, Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Eleazar, they formulated before implements were permitted.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

There, we have stated: “A door-bolt, Rebbi Joshua says one may slip it off one door and hang it on another on the Sabbath. Rebbi Tarphon says, it is like any other implement and may be moved in the courtyard.” In the House of Rebbi Yannai they say, the Mishnah is about a courtyard without an eruv. If it is about a courtyard without an eruv, is that what we did state, “it is like any other implement and may be moved in the courtyard”? Rebbi Yose in the name of Rebbi Jeremiah, Rebbi Ḥananiah reaches it in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: they formulated before implements were permitted. (If they formulated before implements were permitted,) is that what we have stated: “it is like any other implement and may be moved in the courtyard”? Like the “three implements which can be carried in a courtyard: a small knife, the chopper of fig cake, and the soup ladle.”

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

The bugle, he blows a third time on the roof and puts it down at that spot. Is it not a implement? Rebbi Yudan said, they formulated before implements were permitted.

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English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Rebbi Zeˋira in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: Half-pipes and rods were formulated before implements were permitted. One may not move planks of a ship on the Sabbath. If they cover implements or food they are like covers of any implement and may be moved on the Sabbath. Rebbi La said, even although you are saying “like covers of implements”, this is only if they have the designation of an implement.

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Hebrew · Jerusalem Talmud, ed. Guggenheimer (Hebrew/Aramaic)

כָּל שֶׁנִּיטַּל בִּשְׁנַיִם מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן. בִּשְׁנָיִם בְּאַרְבָּעָה וּבַחֲמִשָּׁה אָסוּר. אָמַר. רִבִּי זְעוּרָא. מִכֵּיוָן דְּאַתְּ אָמַר. בִּשְׁנַיִם מוּתָּר. אֲפִילוּ בְּאַרְבָּעָה וּבַחֲמִשָּׁה מוּתָּר. מַה דְמַר רִבִּי מָנָא. (אָמַר) [בִּימֵי] רִבִּי יוֹסֵה הֲווֹן טַלְיָיא טְעִינִין סַפְסְלָה דְּרִבִּי יוּדָה בַּר פָּזִי וְסַבַּיָיא מְסַיְיעִין לְהוֹן. רִבִּי לָעְזָר בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי חֲנִינָה. מַעֲשֶׂה הָיָה וְטִילְטְלוּ קָרוֹן שֶׁל בֵּית רִבִּי בַּשַּׁבָּת. וְלָאו כֶלִי הוּא. שֶׁלֹּא תֹאמַר. הוֹאִיל וְאֵין תַּשְׁמִישָׁן אֶלָּא עַל גַּב מְקוֹמָן אֵין מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן בַּשַּׁבָּת. רַב יְהוּדָה בְשֵׁם שְׁמוּאֵל. קּוּפּוֹת הַגְּדוֹלוֹת וְסוּגִין הַגְּדוֹלִים מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן בַּשַּׁבָּת. שֶׁלֹּא תוֹמַר. הוֹאִיל וְתַשְׁמִישָׁן בִּמְקוֹמָן אֵין מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן. רִבִּי אַבָּא בְשֵׁם שְׁמוּאֵל. מַכְבֵּשׁ מִיטּוֹת מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן בַּשַּׁבָּת. רִבִּי בָּא בְשֵׁם רַב. כּוֹבֶד הָעֶלְיוֹן וְהַתַּחְתּוֹן מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן חוּץ מִן הָעוֹמְדִין. אָמַר רִבִּי בָּא. הָדָא דְתֵימָר בְּעוֹמְדִין שֶׁשָּׂם. אֲבָל בְּעוֹמְדִין שֶׁבָּן מוּתָּר. רִבִּי זְעוּרָה בְשֵׁם רַב יְהוּדָה בְשֵׁם רַב. קָנִים וַחֲבָלִים שֶׁל קורייס מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן בַּשַּׁבָּת. מַה דְּרִבִּי יוֹסֵה אָמַר. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן שָׁאַל לְרִבִּי יְהוּדָה בֶּן לֵוִי. מָהוּ לְטַלְטֵל כְּלֵי קורייס בַּשַּׁבָּת. אָמַר לֵיהּ. מְטַלְטְלִין. רִבִּי יוּדָה בֶּן פָּזִי לֹא אָמַר כֵּן אֶלָּא רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן שָׁאַל לְרִבִּי יְהוּדָה בֶּן לֵוִי. מָהוּ לְטַלְטֵל כְּלֵי קורייס בַּשַּׁבָּת. אָמַר לֵיהּ. אֵין מְטַלְטְלִין. אָמַר לֵיהּ. לָמָּה. אָמַר לֵיהּ. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁאֵין מְטַלְטְלִין.

English · Heinrich W. Guggenheimer

Anything which may be moved by two people may be moved by two; by four or five it is forbidden. Rebbi Zeˋira said, since you are saying that by two it is permitted, even by four or five it is permitted. That is what Rebbi Mana said, in the days of Rebbi Yose children were carrying Rebbi Jehudah ben Pazi’s bench and old men were helping them. Rebbi Eleazar in the name of Rebbi Ḥanina: It happened that they moved the carriage of Rebbi’s house on the Sabbath. Is that not an implement? Lest you say that because one used only its place one could not move it on the Sabbath. Rav Jehudah in the name of Samuel: Big boxes and big pails may be moved on the Sabbath, lest you say because they are used only at their place one could not move them on the Sabbath. Rebbi Abba in the name of Samuel: A bed press one may move on the Sabbath. Rebbi Abba in the name of Rav: One may move the upper and lower cross-beams but not the vertical [beams]. Rebbi Abba said, this refers to installed vertical [beams]; but the vertical [beams] at rest are permitted. Rods and ropes of the loom one may move on the Sabbath; this is what Rebbi Yose said: Rebbi Joḥanan asked Rebbi Jehudah ben Levi, may one move appurtenances of a loom on the Sabbath? He told him, one may move. Rebbi Jehudah ben Pazi did not say so but: Rebbi Joḥanan asked Rebbi Jehudah ben Levi, may one move appurtenances of a loom on the Sabbath? He told him, one may not move. He asked him, why? He answered, because one may not move.

Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat 17.1

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