Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim 9.6

משנה: אָמַר רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ שָׁמַעְתִּי שֶׁתְּמוּרַת הַפֶּסַח קְרֵיבָה וּתְמוּרַת הַפֶּסַח אֵינָהּ קְרֵיבָה וְאֵין לִי לְפָרֵשׁ. אָמַר רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אֲנִי אֲפָרֵשׁ. הַפֶּסַח שֶׁנִּמְצָא קוֹדֶם שְׁחִיטַת הַפֶּסַח יִרְעֶה עַד שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֵב. וְיִמָּכֵר וְיָבִיא בְּדָמָיו שְׁלָמִים וְכֵן תְּמוּרָתוֹ. לְאַחַר שְׁחִיטַת הַפֶּסַח. קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים. וְכֵן תְּמוּרָתוֹ:

MISHNAH: Rebbi Joshua said, I have heard that the substitute of a Pesaḥ is sacrificed and that the substitute of a Pesaḥ is not sacrificed, and I cannot explain it. Rebbi Aqiba said, I shall explain it. The Pesaḥ which is found before the time of slaughtering the Pesaḥ shall graze until it becomes unusable, then be sold, and for the money one shall bring well-being offerings; the same holds for its substitute. After the time of slaughtering the Pesaḥ, it shall be brought as well-being offering; the same holds for its substitute.

הלכה: רִבִּי יוּדָן בָּעֵי. אָף בִּתְמוּרַת אָשָׁם כֵּן. תְּמוּרַת אָשָׁם קְרֵיבָה וּתְמוּרַת אָשָׁם אֵינָהּ קְרֵיבָה. אָמַר רִבִּי יּוֹסֵה. פֶּסַח שֶׁהִקְרִיבָהּ [בְּשַׁחֲרִית] אֵינָהּ פֶּסַח. עוֹלָה שֶׁהִקְרִיבָהּ בְּשַׁחֲרִית עוֹלָה הִיא.

HALAKHAH: Rebbi Yudan asked, is it the same for the substitute of a reparation offering, that the substitute of a reparation offering is sacrificed and the substitute of a reparation offering is not sacrificed? Rebbi Yose said, a Pesaḥ which one sacrificed [in the morning] is no Pesaḥ; an elevation offering which one sacrificed in the morning is an elevation offering.

הֵמִיר בּוֹ בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה עָשָׂר. רִבִּי זְעוּרָה אָמַר. תְּמוּרָתוֹ קְרֵיבָה שְׁלָמִים. רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר רַב יִצחָק אָמַר. אֵין תְּמוּרָתוֹ קְרֵיבָה שְׁלָמִים. חֵיילֵיהּ דְּרַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר רַב יִצחָק מִן הָדָא. לְאַחַר הַפֶּסַח יָבִיא שְׁלָמִים. וְכֵן תְּמוּרָתוֹ. אִין תֵּימַר. הֵמִיר בּוֹ בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה עָשָׂר וּתְמוּרָתוֹ קְרֵיבָה שְׁלָמִים. וִיתִיבִינֵיהּ. לֹא מוטָּב לְלַמֵּד תְּמוּרַת פֶּסַח מִפֶּסַח וְלֹא לְלַמֵּד תְּמוּרַת שְׁלָמִים מִפֶּסַח.

If he substituted for it on the Thirteenth, Rebbi Zeˋira said, the substitute is brought as a well-being offering; Rebbi Samuel ben Rav Isaac said, the substitute is not brought as a well-being offering. The strength of Rebbi Samuel ben Rav Isaac is from the following: “after the time of slaughtering the Pesaḥ, it shall be brought as well-being offering.” If you are saying, if he substituted for it on the Thirteenth and the substitute is brought as a well-being offering, is it not better to infer the {rules of the} substitute of a Pesaḥ from the {rules of the} Pesaḥ than to infer the [rules of the] substitute of a well-being sacrifice from the {rules of the} Pesaḥ?

רִבִּי הִילָא בְשֵׁם שְׁמוּאֵל. מֵתוּ בְעָלִים בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה עָשָׂר. גּוּפוֹ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים. וְלָמָּה לֹא אָמַר. בְּאַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר. כָּל שֶׁנִּרְאֶה לִיקָּרֵב בְּפֶסַח אֵין גּוּפוֹ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים.

Rebbi Hila in the name of Samuel: If the owner died on the Thirteenth, its body is offered as a well-being sacrifice. Why did he not say, on the Fourteenth? Any {animal} which is due to be sacrificed as Pesaḥ, its body is not offered as a well-being sacrifice.

תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. וְולַד חַטָּאת וּתְמוּרַת חַטָּאת וְחַטָּאת שֶׁמֵּתוּ בְעָלֶיהָ וְשֶׁעִיבְּרָה שְׁנָתָהּ וְשֶׁאָבְדָה וְנִמְצֵאת בַּעֲלַת מוּם.

There, we have stated: “The offspring of a purification offering, and the substitute of a purification offering, and a purification offering whose owner died, …, and whose year has passed, and which was lost and found, defective.”

וְולַד חַטָּאת דְּאִתְפַּלְּגוֹן. צִיבּוּר שֶׁהִפְרִישׁ נְקֵבָה. וְכֵן נָשִׂיא שֶׁהִפְרִישׂ שְׂעִירָה. רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה אָמַר. לֹא קָדְשָׁה וּוְלָדָהּ קָרֵב. רִבִּי יוֹסֵה אוֹמֵר. קָדְשָׁה וּוְלָדָהּ מֵת. חֵיילֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי יוֹסֵי מִן הָדָא. אֵין אַתְּ יָכוֹל לוֹמַר. וְולַד חַטָּאת בְּצִיבּוּר. שֶׁאֵין הַצִּיבּוּר מֵבִיאִין נְקֵבָה. לֹא אָמַר אֶלָּא. אֵין אַתְּ יָכוֹל. הָא אִם הִקְדִּישָׁהּ קָדְשָׁה. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּירִבִּי בּוּן. יְאוּת אָמַר רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה. וְלֹא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן הִיא. דְּרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אָמַר. נְקֵיבָה לְעוֹלָה לֹא קָדְשָׁה אֶלָּא הֶקְדֵּשׁ דָּמִים.

“The offspring of a purification offering,” as they disagreed: If the community dedicated a female, and so the prince who dedicated a she-goat, Rebbi Jeremiah said, it is not dedicated and its offspring may be offered; Rebbi Yose said, it is dedicated and its offspring must die. The strength of Rebbi Yose is from the following: “You cannot speak about the offspring of a purification offering of the community, since the community does not bring a female.” He only said, “you cannot speak about”; therefore if he dedicated it it is dedicated. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, Rebbi Jeremiah said it correctly. Is it not Rebbi Simeon’s? As Rebbi Simeon said, a female as elevation offering is dedicated only for its money’s worth.

וּתְמוּרַת חַטָּאת דְּאִיתְפַּלְּגוֹן. הֵמִיר בּוֹ בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה עָשָׂר. רִבִּי זְעוּרָה אָמַר. תְּמוּרָתוֹ קְרֵיבָה שְׁלָמִים. רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר רַב יִצחָק אָמַר. אֵין תְּמוּרָתוֹ קְרֵיבָה שְׁלָמִים.

“And the substitute of a purification offering,” as they disagreed: if he substituted for it on the Thirteenth, Rebbi Zeˋira said, the substitute is brought as a well-being offering; Rebbi Samuel ben Rav Isaac said, the substitute is not brought as a well-being offering.

וְחַטָּאת שֶׁמֵּתוּ בְעָלֶיהָ [יָמוּתוּ. כַּיי דָמַר] (אָמַר) רִבִּי הִילָא בְשֵׁם שְׁמוּאֵל. מֵתוּ בְעָלָיו בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה עָשָׂר. גּוּפוֹ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים. וְלָמָּה { } אָמַר בְּאַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר. כָּל עַמָּא מוֹדֵיי. כָּל שֶׁנִּרְאֶה לִקָּרֵב בְּפֶסַח אֵין גּוּפוֹ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים.

“And a purification offering whose owner died,” [has to die. Parallel to what] Rebbi Hila said in the name of Samuel, If the owner died on the Thirteenth, its body is offered as a well-being sacrifice. Why did he {not} say, on the Fourteenth? Everybody agrees that the body of any {animal} due to be sacrificed as Pesaḥ, is not offered as a well-being sacrifice.

וְשֶׁעִיבְּרָה שְׁנָתָהּ. כַּיי דְּאָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא. בְּשֶׁעִיבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ בֵּין רִאשׁוֹן לַשֵׁינִי. רִבִּי הִילָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. בְּשֵׁעִיבֵּר זְמַן כַּפָּרָתוֹ.

“And whose year has passed.” Parallel to what Rav Ḥisda said, If its year was completed between First and Second. Rebbi Hila in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: When the time for its propitiation was passed.

וְשֶׁאָבְדָה וְנִמְצֵאת. (בַּעַל מוּם) [בְּרִי מּוּתָּר.] רִבִּי יָסָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. אֵין לָךְ פֶּסַח גּוּפוֹ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים אֶלָּא שֶׁאָבַד וְנִמְצָא מֵאַחַר שֶׁכִּיפְּרוּ הַבְּעָלִים.

“And which was lost and found.” (Defective.) [Is it not certainly permitted?] Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: No body of a Pesaḥ is brought as well-being sacrifice except the one which was lost but found only after the owners propitiated.

וּבַעֲלַת מוּם. רִבִּי זְעוּרָא בְעָא קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יָסָא. לֹא מִסְתַּבְּרָא בָהֵן בַּעַל מוּם דְּתַנִּינָן הָכָא בָּאֲבִיד הוּא. אָמַר לֵיהּ. אוֹף אֲנָא סְבַר כֵּן.

“And the defective.” Rebbi Zeˋira asked before Rebbi Yasa: Is it not reasonable that the defective quoted here is the one which was lost? He said to him, I also am of this opinion.

הִפְרִישׁ פִּסְחוֹ וְאָבַד וְהִפְרִישׁ אַחֵר תַּחְתָּיו. לֹא הִסְפִּיק לְהַקְרִיב אֶת הַשֵּׁינִי עַד שֶׁנִּמְצָא הָרִאשׁוֹן. וַהֲרֵי שְׁנֵיהֶן עוֹמְדִין. אִית תַּנָּיֵי תַנֵּי. מִצְוָה לְהַקְרִיב אֶת הָרִאשׁוֹן. אִית תַּנָּיֵי תַנֵּי. מִצְוָה לְהַקְרִיב אֶת הַשֵּׁינִי. וְתַנֵּי שְׁמוּאֵל כֵּן. בּוֹרֵר אֶת הַיָּפֶה שֶׁבָּהֶן וְהַשֵּׁינִי יִרְעֶה עַד שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֵב. וְיִמָּכֵר וְיָבִיא בְדָמָיו שְׁלָמִים בְּשִׁשָּׁה עָשָׂר. רִבִּי לָעְזָר אוֹמֵר. הוּא עַצְמוֹ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים בְּשִׁשָּׁה עָשָׂר. אַתְיָא דְרִבִּי כְּרִבִּי לָעְזָר. וּשְׁמוֵּאֵל תַּנִּיתָהּ כְּשִׁיטָּתֵיהּ. דְּתַנֵּי. רִבִּי אוֹמֵר. אֵין חַטָּאת {מֵתָה} אֶלְּא שֶׁנִּמְצֵאת מֵאַחַר שֶׁכִּיפְּרוּ בָהּ הַבְּעָלִים. אֵין הָמָּעוֹת הוֹלְכוֹת לְיַם הַמֶּלַח אֶלְּא שֶׁנִּמְצְאוּ מֵאַחַר שֶׁכִּיפְּרוּ הַבְּעָלִים.

If he dedicated his Pesaḥ, but it became lost, and he dedicated another in its stead. Before he could sacrifice the second, the first was found, and now both are at his disposal. There are Tannaim who state, it is meritorious to sacrifice the first; there are Tannaim who state, it is meritorious to sacrifice the second. Samuel stated as follows: He selects the better of the two, and the other one shall graze until it becomes unusable, then be sold, and he shall bring for its value well-being offerings on the Sixteenth. Rebbi Eleazar says, itself shall be brought as well-being offering on the Sixteenth. Rebbi comes with Rebbi Eleazar, and Samuel stated according to his system, as it was stated: “Rebbi says, no purification offering {dies} but one which was found after that the owner had been atoned, no money is thrown into the Dead Sea except which was found after the owner had been atoned.”