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Sutta PiṭakaUd 6.5

Sutta Piṭaka

Ud 6.5

Dutiyanānātitthiyasutta

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Followers of Various Other Religions (2nd)

So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Now at that time several ascetics, brahmins, and wanderers who followed various other religions were residing in Sāvatthī, holding different views, beliefs, and opinions, relying on different views.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

There were some ascetics and brahmins who had this doctrine and view: “The self and the cosmos are eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Others held views such as the following, each regarding their own view as true and others as silly. “The self and the cosmos are not eternal.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The self and the cosmos are both eternal and not eternal.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The self and the cosmos are neither eternal nor not eternal.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The self and the cosmos are made by oneself.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The self and the cosmos are made by another.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The self and the cosmos are made by both oneself and another.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The self and the cosmos have arisen anomalously, not made by oneself or another.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are not eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are both eternal and not eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are neither eternal nor not eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are made by oneself, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are made by another, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain are made by both oneself and another, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Pleasure and pain have arisen anomalously, not made by oneself or another, and the self and the cosmos.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

They were fighting, quarreling, and disputing, continually wounding each other with barbed words: “Such is Truth, such is not Truth! Such is not Truth, such is Truth!”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Then several mendicants robed up in the morning and, taking their bowls and robes, entered Sāvatthī for alms. Then, after the meal, when they returned from almsround, they went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what was happening.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Then, understanding this matter, on that occasion the Buddha expressed this heartfelt sentiment:

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“Some ascetics and brahmins, it seems, cling to these things. They founder in mid-stream, without reaching that objective.”

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Pāli text: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500 (M.L. Maniratana Bunnag Dhamma Society Fund), as published by SuttaCentral. Public domain. · Source ↗

Pāli text: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka, via SuttaCentral. Public domain.

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato. SuttaCentral, dedicated to the public domain (CC0). · Source ↗

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato (SuttaCentral), dedicated to the public domain via CC0. The translator respectfully requests that any use be in accordance with the values and principles of the Buddhist community. In particular, please do not use this work in AI training datasets, for the development of any AI model or algorithm, or in any AI-derived technologies.

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