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Sutta PiṭakaSnp 4.13

Sutta Piṭaka

Snp 4.13

Mahābyūhasutta

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

The Longer Discourse on Arrayed for Battle

“Regarding those who maintain their own view, disputing that, ‘This is the only truth’: are all of them subject only to criticism, or do some also win praise for that?”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“That is a small thing, insufficient for peace, these two fruits of dispute, I say. Seeing this, one ought not dispute, looking for sanctuary in the land of no dispute.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

One who knows does not get involved with any of the many different conventions. Why would the uninvolved get involved, since they do not believe based on the seen or the heard?

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Those for whom ethics are the highest speak of purity through self-control; having undertaken a vow, they stick to it: ‘Let us train right here, then we will be pure.’ Professing to be experts, they are led on to future lives.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

If they fall away from their precepts and vows, they tremble, having failed in their task. They pray and long for purity, like one who has lost their caravan while journeying far from home.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

But having given up all precepts and vows, and these deeds blameworthy or blameless; not longing for ‘purity’ or ‘impurity’, live detached, fostering peace.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Relying on mortification in disgust of sin, or else on what is seen, heard, or thought, they moan that purification comes through heading upstream, not rid of craving for life after life.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

For one who longs there are muttered prayers, and trembling too over ideas they have formed. But one here for whom there is no passing away or reappearing: why would they tremble? For what would they pray?”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The very same teaching that some say is ‘ultimate’, others say is inferior. Which of these statements is true, for all of them profess to be experts?”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“They say their own teaching is perfect, while the teaching of others is inferior. So arguing, they dispute, each saying their own conventions are the truth.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

If someone else’s disparagement makes you inferior, no one in any teaching would be distinguished. For each of them says the other’s teaching is lacking, while forcefully advocating their own.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

But if they honor their own teachings just as they praise their own journeys, then all doctrines would be equally valid, and purity would be specific to them.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

After judging among the teachings, a brahmin has adopted nothing that requires interpretation by another. That’s why they’ve gotten over disputes, for they see no other doctrine as best.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Saying, ‘I know, I see, that’s how it is’, some believe that purity stems from view. But if they’ve really seen, what use is that view to them? Overlooking what matters, they say purity comes from another.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

When a person sees, they see name and form, and having seen, they will know just these things. Gladly let them see much or little, for those who are skilled say this is no way to purity.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

It’s not easy to educate someone who is dogmatic, promoting a view they have formulated. Speaking of the beauty in that on which they depend, they talk of purity in accord with what they saw there.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

The brahmin does not get involved with formulating and calculating; they’re not followers of views, nor kinsmen of notions. Having understood the many different conventions, they look on when others grasp.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Having untied the knots here in the world, the sage takes no side among disputes. Peaceful among the peaceless, equanimous, they don’t grasp when others grasp.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

Having given up former defilements and not making new ones, not swayed by preference, nor a proponent of dogma, that attentive one is released from views, not clinging to the world, nor reproaching themselves.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

They are remote from all things seen, heard, or thought. With burden put down, the sage is released: not formulating, not abstaining, not longing.”

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Pāli text: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500 (M.L. Maniratana Bunnag Dhamma Society Fund), as published by SuttaCentral. Public domain. · Source ↗

Pāli text: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka, via SuttaCentral. Public domain.

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato. SuttaCentral, dedicated to the public domain (CC0). · Source ↗

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato (SuttaCentral), dedicated to the public domain via CC0. The translator respectfully requests that any use be in accordance with the values and principles of the Buddhist community. In particular, please do not use this work in AI training datasets, for the development of any AI model or algorithm, or in any AI-derived technologies.

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