Pāli · Sutta Piṭaka (Pāli, Mahāsaṅgīti)“Ejā, bhante, rogo, ejā gaṇḍo, ejā sallaṁ, ejā imaṁ purisaṁ parikaḍḍhati tassa tasseva bhavassa abhinibbattiyā. Tasmā ayaṁ puriso uccāvacamāpajjati. Yesāhaṁ, bhante, pañhānaṁ ito bahiddhā aññesu samaṇabrāhmaṇesu okāsakammampi nālatthaṁ, te me bhagavatā byākatā. Dīgharattānusayitañca pana me vicikicchākathaṅkathāsallaṁ, tañca bhagavatā abbuḷhan”ti.
“Abhijānāsi no tvaṁ, devānaminda, ime pañhe aññe samaṇabrāhmaṇe pucchitā”ti?
“Abhijānāmahaṁ, bhante, ime pañhe aññe samaṇabrāhmaṇe pucchitā”ti.
“Yathā kathaṁ pana te, devānaminda, byākaṁsu? Sace te agaru bhāsassū”ti.
“Na kho me, bhante, garu yatthassa bhagavā nisinno bhagavantarūpo vā”ti.
“Tena hi, devānaminda, bhāsassū”ti.
“Yesvāhaṁ, bhante, maññāmi samaṇabrāhmaṇā āraññikā pantasenāsanāti, tyāhaṁ upasaṅkamitvā ime pañhe pucchāmi, te mayā puṭṭhā na sampāyanti, asampāyantā mamaṁyeva paṭipucchanti: ‘ko nāmo āyasmā’ti? Tesāhaṁ puṭṭho byākaromi: ‘ahaṁ kho, mārisa, sakko devānamindo’ti. Te mamaṁyeva uttari paṭipucchanti: ‘kiṁ panāyasmā, devānaminda, kammaṁ katvā imaṁ ṭhānaṁ patto’ti? Tesāhaṁ yathāsutaṁ yathāpariyattaṁ dhammaṁ desemi. Te tāvatakeneva attamanā honti: ‘sakko ca no devānamindo diṭṭho, yañca no apucchimhā, tañca no byākāsī’ti. Te aññadatthu mamaṁyeva sāvakā sampajjanti, na cāhaṁ tesaṁ. Ahaṁ kho pana, bhante, bhagavato sāvako sotāpanno avinipātadhammo niyato sambodhiparāyaṇo”ti.
“Abhijānāsi no tvaṁ, devānaminda, ito pubbe evarūpaṁ vedapaṭilābhaṁ somanassapaṭilābhan”ti?
“Abhijānāmahaṁ, bhante, ito pubbe evarūpaṁ vedapaṭilābhaṁ somanassapaṭilābhan”ti.
“Yathā kathaṁ pana tvaṁ, devānaminda, abhijānāsi ito pubbe evarūpaṁ vedapaṭilābhaṁ somanassapaṭilābhan”ti?
“Bhūtapubbaṁ, bhante, devāsurasaṅgāmo samupabyūḷho ahosi. Tasmiṁ kho pana, bhante, saṅgāme devā jiniṁsu, asurā parājayiṁsu. Tassa mayhaṁ, bhante, taṁ saṅgāmaṁ abhivijinitvā vijitasaṅgāmassa etadahosi: ‘yā ceva dāni dibbā ojā yā ca asurā ojā, ubhayametaṁ devā paribhuñjissantī’ti. So kho pana me, bhante, vedapaṭilābho somanassapaṭilābho sadaṇḍāvacaro sasatthāvacaro na nibbidāya na virāgāya na nirodhāya na upasamāya na abhiññāya na sambodhāya na nibbānāya saṁvattati. Yo kho pana me ayaṁ, bhante, bhagavato dhammaṁ sutvā vedapaṭilābho somanassapaṭilābho, so adaṇḍāvacaro asatthāvacaro ekantanibbidāya virāgāya nirodhāya upasamāya abhiññāya sambodhāya nibbānāya saṁvattatī”ti.
English · Bhikkhu Sujato“Turbulence, sir, is a disease, a boil, a dart. Turbulence drags a person to be regenerated in one state of existence or another. That’s why a person finds themselves in states high and low. Elsewhere, among other ascetics and brahmins, I wasn’t even given a chance to ask these questions that the Buddha has answered. The dart of doubt and indecision has lain within me for a long time, but the Buddha has plucked it out.”
“Lord of gods, do you recall having asked this question of other ascetics and brahmins?”
“I do, sir.”
“If you wouldn’t mind, lord of gods, tell me how they answered.”
“It’s no trouble when someone such as the Blessed One is sitting here.”
“Well, speak then, lord of gods.”
“Sir, I approached those who I imagined were ascetics and brahmins living in the wilderness, in remote lodgings. But they were stumped by my question, and they even questioned me in return: ‘What is the venerable’s name?’ So I answered them: ‘Good fellow, I am Sakka, lord of gods.’ So they asked me another question: ‘But lord of gods, what deed brought you to this position?’ So I taught them the Dhamma as I had learned and memorized it. And they were pleased with just that much: ‘We have seen Sakka, lord of gods! And he answered our questions!’ Invariably, they become my disciples, I don’t become theirs. But sir, I am the Buddha’s disciple, a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening.”
“Lord of gods, do you recall ever feeling such joy and happiness before?”
“I do, sir.”
“But how?”
“Once upon a time, sir, a battle was fought between the gods and the titans. In that battle the gods won and the titans lost. It occurred to me as victor, ‘Now the gods shall enjoy both the nectar of the gods and the nectar of the titans.’ But sir, that joy and happiness is in the sphere of the rod and the sword. It doesn’t lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment. But the joy and happiness I feel listening to the Buddha’s teaching is not in the sphere of the rod and the sword. It does lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment.”