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Sutta Piṭaka

Snp 4.12

Cūḷabyūhasutta

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

The Shorter Discourse on Arrayed For Battle

“Each maintaining their own view, those who are skilled disagree, arguing: ‘Whoever sees it this way understands the teaching; those who reject this are inadequate.’

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

So arguing, they dispute, saying, ‘The other is a fool, an amateur!’ Which of these is a true statement, for all of them profess to be experts?”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“If not accepting another’s teaching makes you a useless fool lacking wisdom, then they’re all fools lacking wisdom, for they all maintain their own view.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

But if having your own view makes you pristine— pure in wisdom, expert and thoughtful— then none of them lack wisdom, for such is the view they have all embraced.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

I do not say that it is correct when they call each other fools. Each has built up their own view to be the truth, which is why they take the other as a fool.”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“What some say is true and correct, others say is hollow and false. So arguing, they dispute; why don’t ascetics say the same thing?”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“The truth is one, there is no second, understanding which folk would not dispute. But those ascetics each boast of different truths; that’s why they don’t say the same thing.”

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“But why do they speak of different truths, these proponents who profess to be experts? Are there really so many different truths, or do they just follow their own lines of reasoning?”

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

“No, there are not many different truths that, apart from perception, are lasting in the world. Having formed their reasoning regarding different views, they say there are two things: true and false.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

The seen, heard, or thought, or precepts or vows— based on these they show disdain. Standing in judgment, they scoff, saying, ‘The other is a fool, an amateur!’

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They take the other as a fool on the same grounds that they speak of themselves as an expert. Professing to be expert on their own authority, they disdain the other while saying the same thing.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

They are perfect, according to their own extreme view; drunk on conceit, imagining themselves proficient. They have anointed themselves in their own mind, for such is the view they have embraced.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

If the word of your opponent makes you deficient, then they too are lacking wisdom. But if on your own authority you’re a knowledge master, an attentive one, then there are no fools among the ascetics.

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‘Those who proclaim a teaching other than this have fallen short of purity, and are inadequate’: so say each one of the sectarians, for they are deeply attached to their own view.

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‘Here alone is purity,’ they say, denying that there is purification in other teachings. Thus each one of the sectarians, being dogmatic, speaks forcefully within the context of their own journey.

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English · Bhikkhu Sujato

But in that case, so long as they are speaking forcefully of their own journey, how can they take the other as a fool? They are the ones who provoke conflict when they call the other a fool with an impure teaching.

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Standing in judgment, measuring by their own standard, they dispute with the world more and more. But a personage who has given up all judgments creates no conflict in the world.”

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Pāli text: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka Buddhavasse 2500 (M.L. Maniratana Bunnag Dhamma Society Fund), as published by SuttaCentral. Public domain. · Source ↗

Pāli text: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka, via SuttaCentral. Public domain.

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato. SuttaCentral, dedicated to the public domain (CC0). · Source ↗

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato (SuttaCentral), dedicated to the public domain via CC0. The translator respectfully requests that any use be in accordance with the values and principles of the Buddhist community. In particular, please do not use this work in AI training datasets, for the development of any AI model or algorithm, or in any AI-derived technologies.

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